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January 30, 2007

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The statewide median selling price dropped 14.2 percent in December 2006 compared to December 2005

http://www.nysar.com/files/stats.html

That's a huge drop in one year. I was betting on 30% drop over 4 years. The prices are falling much faster.

I love NYSAR comment: Clearly, there was no ‘bursting bubble’ in the New York housing market in 2006.

What is he smoking?

I wonder why Sullivan County is doing so well compare to other regions?

Statewide numbers can paint a skewed picture. This state has 4 very distinct markets --- new York City, the NYC suburbs (Long Island, Westchester, Dutchess, Putnam and some or Orange), "upper downstate", including Sullivan and as far up as Albany, and then upstate. Each of these markets has different dynamics, and upstate is kind of an economic basket case.

I'm not sure how NYSAR is collecting its data, and that could be a problem. Sales data reported by Realtor organizations often is pulled from sales reported in Multiple Listing Systems. In most states, that paints a pretty accurate picture, because most residential sales come through MLSs. But New York City doesn't have a robust and open MLS, so many NYC sales may not be reported if that's where NYSAR is pulling its data. Also, until recently, coop sales have not been publicly reported (NYC just changed the rules on that), so coop sales, which make up the bulk of the Manhattan market, probably aren't included in the data.

I think Sullivan is doing well for a few reasons. There continues to be a buzz about the Catskills among NYC second home buyers that fuels demand. The inventory of properties here with second home appeal continues to be pretty low. Sullivan is still one of the most affordable second home getaways within a few hours of NYC. And, finally, a lot of second home demand here is a function of many buyers being priced out of the NYC/Manhattan market, and are choosing to continue to rent there and buy something here.

Real estate along the coasts are so overpriced from the idiot loans that enabled anyone to enter debtorship; even someone who was unemployed could have gotten a mortgage. The prices sellers are asking are so far away from "striking distance" of market value and without a serious lowball offer (more than 30% off and that is being conservative!), you are only ripping yourself off. I recommend that anyone that is interested in buying a house should at least sit out this year, a recession is just around the corner. Buying a house before a recession is bad, buying an overpriced house before a recession is downright insane!

There is so much inventory and over the spring, that inventory is going to grow even bigger as more people default on their mortgages. Lenders are going under every day and lending standards are tightening up. There will be much more houses that NEED to be sold than there will be fewer people qualified to buy them even with their lowball offers. http://ml-implode.com

Here is my take on the NYSAR http://libubble.atspace.com/nysdata.html I noticed that the NYSAR took down their stats, but you will find on my site along with Staro's idiotic statement.

As far as median and average sales data, this is what I think of them http://libubble.atspace.com/numbersgame.html

This is very true. I know that this article dates back a bit, but my boyfriend and I are selling our condo and recently received our first, low-ball offer (-10%); whereas, if the offer had been more reasonable (-3 to -5%) we would have been willing to negotiate, now we are left feeling as though the buyer isn't serious and we're sticking to a higher bottom line than we initially figured we would.

Offering below ask is the norm, of course -- even 5% below ask, in this market, makes sense. But when an offer comes in that could be seen as insulting, it's hard to want to work with the person who submitted it.

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